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Just finished watching this season, and had a whole post’s worth of thoughts, because wow, an incredible mixed bag. Some of the biggest quality whiplash I’ve ever seen in a Marvel thing.

One of the strengths of “What Ifs” is the ability to throw together new groups of characters who didn’t get to interact in canon, right? To dig into whole new dynamics that wouldn’t have fit into the main storyline, to explore and have fun with them.

Well, some of those are amazing. Episode 2 features Agatha Harkness as a Golden Age of Hollywood actress, while Kingo was already a Bollywood star. They’re both sassy divas who love playing to a crowd, they egg each other on and fight via magical dance-off, every moment is gold. I laughed so hard.

Smug Agatha dancing with a concerned Kingo

On the other end of the spectrum, episode 6 features versions of Shang-Chi and Kate Bishop who were born into the 1872 Old West…and there’s just nothing to it?

If you like classic Westerns, it could work for you just based on the tropes, but for the characters…I don’t know why it’s these two and not anybody else. I don’t know why they’re buddies with each other. They don’t have interesting 1872 versions of their canon powers or specialties. (Why are you doing Old West Hawkeye if you’re not going to come up with Old West trick arrows??)

(Conspiracy theory: this was originally written to be about Shang-Chi and Katy Chen. Katy could’ve done generic archery when the plot called for it, and the dialogue could’ve gotten all kinds of material based the friendship dynamic. Then someone made the writers swap in Kate — maybe because she’s a more popular character? — even though nobody ever figured out “what fun dynamic they could have instead” or “why this other friendship would be compelling to watch”.)

The other great ones are episode 3 (the Red Guardian invites himself on a team-up accidental-friendship road trip with the Winter Soldier) and episode 4 (follow-up to the earlier Party Thor episode, Darcy and Howard the Duck are still married, and various Cosmic MCU characters are trying to kidnap their newborn egg).

Episode 1 is really half-and-half. The good part is a friendship between Bruce Banner and Sam Wilson, which actually has some thought put into it! Sam also leads a new Avengers team-up that’s almost completely “why are these people here, other than some executive wanted to put their names in the credits?” Moon Knight is in it, and I kinda wish they hadn’t bothered, that’s how bad it is!

Listen, the MCU characters who should have the most deeply-personal reaction to “Bruce desperately trying to avoid getting triggered into Hulking-out” are Marc Spector and Bucky Barnes. The writers put both of them in this episode. And then didn’t do anything with that. Why?

Animated Marc in the cockpit of a mech, wearing moon-themed armor

(I opened the episode to look for a screencap, saw Monica Rambeau, and realized I had 100% forgotten Monica was in this episode. That’s how much character-specific stuff she has to do.)

Episode 5 focuses on Riri Williams, so it might be better if Ironheart was released before this (as planned) and we all had more investment in Riri Williams? Then again, it might not. Episodes 7-8 involve a team-up of characters who mostly aren’t in the mainline MCU (one is Peggy Carter, but two are What If originals, and one’s from the X-Men). I feel like I don’t know enough about Storm to have strong feelings about whether she was wasted here or not. Any Storm fans want to weigh in?

…Basically, the only episodes I’d recommend watching are 2, 3, and 4. Maybe 1 if you especially like Sam and/or Bruce, maybe 7-8 if you like cross-universal team-ups and Watcher-related worldbuilding (or just want to see how Darcy and Howard's kid turned out).

(And, Marvel, if you’re giving Oscar Isaac a tiny role in the big Avengers team-up movies…please give him something better to do than this.)


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Cool video: Using AO3’s data dump from a few years ago to build unreasonably-detailed maps of tags — characters, relationships, then freeforms — and how they relate to each other:
 



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Fandom synning annoyance of the day: Marvel wranglers decided to syn the “Captain America (Movies)” tag to a new “Captain America (Chris Evans Movies)” tag. (They also made a separate “Captain America (Anthony Mackie Movies)” tag.)

A lot of writers use specific movie titles as fandom tags. It makes sense to me if you want to syn things like “Captain America: The Winter Soldier” to a general Evans tag, and “Captain America: Brave New World” to a general Mackie tag.

But they’ve taken away the option for a “general Cap subset of the MCU” tag. If you previously used the general tag because you wanted to include the entire ongoing Captain America series, movies 1-4 and beyond, this goes “nope, that’s not what you meant, you were only writing about the first 3.” If you were following the general tag because you wanted to read about the whole series, you now have a feed that excludes fic about the Sam-centric movies. If you miss that this even happened, and don’t update your feeds, a lot of Sam fic will just never be shown to you.

…and yeah, I’m aware that I don’t, personally, write enough Cap fic of any kind for my opinion on this to matter to anyone! Which is why I’m not out campaigning for them to change it, just grumbling on my own blog about it.

Wrangling annoyance of the day that we actually can blame on users: A bunch of wranglers did an audit on the tag “pinning” (currently not canonical, and not synned to anything).

Of the works it’s used on, 27.9% actually involve “pinning.” The other 72.1% are by writers who don’t know how to spell “pining.”

There are a lot of good reasons why we shouldn’t mass-email thousands of random AO3 users and say “hey, fix your spelling.” I get that. But sometimes I daydream about it anyway.

Some actual progress with No Fandom freeforms is happening behind the scenes.

You might think we should be publicizing that more. It’s good! It’s progress! People should hear good news about wrangling sometimes!

But: if we make a celebratory post about “good news, we synned Tag X”, it’ll get a thousand responses going “wait, Tag X has existed since 2014, why are you so dysfunctional that nobody managed to syn it until 2024? Also, when are you going to get to the equally-obvious problems with tags Y, and Z, and–“

And, let’s be real, none of these complaints are unfair.

But: We have a process for synning things like Tag X now. This is one of many things where TW leadership has spent a decade holding out for the Perfect Process, and in the meantime we had No Process At All, which has built up a terrifyingly large backlog.

What if there’s an official public post about it…the post gets negative reinforcement…someone gets spooked, they pull the plug on the whole thing…and we go back to having No Process At All? That would be worse on every level. Nobody wants to risk that. We hates it, precious.

So, yeah. Positive things are happening somewhere. Wranglers are mostly not talking about it. For at least some of us, this is why.


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I liked it!

Nice brisk pace. Kept the twists coming fast enough to be engaging, without going so fast you lose track of the plot. Torres really came into his own, his enthusiasm was adorable. The fight scenes were fun, and I appreciate that they were about Sam going “dammit, we need to DE-escalate this” half the time, not just “which side can do the most effective beating-up of the other side?”

Concept art of Sam in flight over Celestial Island

This version of Ruth’s character was great. (The baggage of her comics counterpart is undeniable, but it was a relief to see them not replicating it here.) I really do like the idea of more ex-Black-Widows just hanging around the MCU’s secondary cast. Although, missed opportunity to give this one some very personal feelings about mind-control — at least Sam got to mention that he’s sympathetic to the victims because of Bucky.

There were bits of the plot that don’t hold up to scrutiny…but not in a way that I’m actively mad about. Which puts it far ahead of several other Marvel movies.

They didn’t kill any of the characters I would’ve hated to see die! Always a plus.

Only two notable women in the cast, but I appreciate that neither of them got shoehorned into being A Love Interest. The closest we get is Ruth mentioning to Sam how attractive Bucky is, and it’s not played like deep romantic foreshadowing, just a casual observation. (tbh, since we don’t see Ruth reacting to Bucky directly at all, you could easily read it as just something Ruth is saying to test Sam’s reaction…)

And on that note: the Sam-Bucky scene was everything I could’ve asked for. Makes it clear that, even though they’re not working side-by-side on every mission, they have a solid ongoing friendship. They’ll show up for each other in the darkest moments! They’ll let down their guards and be emotionally real with each other! The loss of Steve is still practically its own physical presence in their relationship, but that’s not the reason they love and support each other. The good stuff.


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I’ve seen a range of movies recently-ish that were not part of the Sci-Fi Marathon. Gonna knock out a whole bunch of mini-reviews in one post.

Conclave

Political thriller about the election of a new Pope, based on a book published in 2016 when that was reasonably topical. (Pope Francis was elected in 2013.)

The book was better!

I read it a while ago (well, listened to the audiobook), so the details are fuzzy, but I remember getting a lot more depth and intrigue out of the main character’s POV in the narration than what we see on-screen. I also remember finding it believable/convincing which character gets voted in as Pope in the end, while in the movie it just felt like “he gave one super-generic inspirational speech and suddenly everyone changed their minds.”

The reason I read it in the first place was, it came up in a recs thread for “media with canon [identity] characters.” Happy to say it held up fine, even if you were pre-spoiled for that reveal.

Spellbound

CGI animated movie about a princess who goes on a quest to de-curse her parents.

The opening is really strong. Our heroine starts into what sounds like a typical, stock, Disney-princess I Want song, only to cut to “my parents are monsters, like, actual monsters, for real.”

There was some point in this movie, I don’t even remember what the specific moment was, just that I had the clear thought of “oh, this is a Story About Divorce.” Anything that didn’t really make sense in the context of this specific plot/characters/setup, it was because it was there to be A Lesson for the real kids in the audience dealing with divorced/divorcing parents.

Biggest example: there’s A Lesson about “kids, it’s okay to acknowledge that you have bad feelings, what matters is how you deal with them.” Halfway through the movie, our heroine sets herself up to learn this lesson, when she announces “oh, I don’t have any bad feelings.”

Except…she’s already expressed and recognized a bunch of bad feelings? In a pretty healthy, open way? She sings about being frustrated with her monster-parents’ behavior, and sad that she’s lost the happy, peaceful life they had before. The inciting incident of the quest is when she reaches out to some trusted adults, explains her situation, and asks for help! (The adults in question: two magic forest oracles, who are basically a couple of gay married Jewish grandpas.)

When the oracles come to visit, they’re even surprised to find the parents are literally monsters, and our heroine wasn’t just “being a dramatic teenager” when she said so. Really seems like this should be the setup for A Lesson about “kids, sometimes adults won’t acknowledge that you have legitimate bad feelings about real problems, here’s how to deal with that.” But no.

The movie’s cute, it just felt like was put together from scenes that were developed at different times for different visions of what the final product was supposed to be, and they didn’t mesh well enough.

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

Adult Lydia gets reunited with Beetlejuice at just the right time to disrupt her famous ghost-hunting TV show…but also to disrupt her impending marriage to a publicity-seeking creep, help rescue her exasperated teen daughter from an attempted ghost-kidnapping, and generally cause a bunch of fun chaos.

I got into Beetlejuice as a kid watching the early-nineties cartoon version, where Lydia is a cute weird goth kid and the title character is her wacky supernatural bestie…

Fanart of cartoon Lydia dancing with Beetlejuice

…so the original movie was pretty off-putting to watch in comparison. Had a good time with this one, though? Not sure if the sequel was really more fun and less sleazy, or if my threshold for being bothered by sleaze is just higher these days.

I’m glad they made it. Some of the proposed BJ sequels over the years have just sounded like dumb gimmicks (apparently “Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian” was on the table at one point), but this story felt worth telling. And they kept the low-tech practical aesthetic of the original, lots of puppets and claymation rather than CGI, which was a good choice.

Inside Out 2

Riley hits puberty, which means she’s unlocked new emotions! Especially Anxiety. One of the emotional morals here is “planning for bad things is useful to a point, but trying to anticipate every possible bad thing will just give you anxiety attacks.”

The other emotional moral is “repressing the experiences you don’t want to think about will stop you from being your authentic self.” One of the new bonus figures we meet in the depths of Riley’s head is her Deep Dark Secret, which ducks back into the shadows rather than revealing itself. She spends most of the movie desperately trying to impress a Cool Older Girl, a high-school hockey star who happens to be extremely attractive.

I’m not surprised that Disney executives kept giving Pixar editorial notes about “this is coming off as too gay, fix it,” but I am disappointed. Cowards.

Belle

Very-loose anime adaptation of Beauty and the Beast. Our heroine hasn’t been able to sing IRL since her mother’s death, but when she realizes she can handle singing through her VR avatar in a virtual online community, she accidentally becomes the biggest pop star in the metaverse. Also, makes friends with a monstrous VR avatar (who turns out to be a sad boy with an abusive parent IRL).

The soundtrack in this is amazing. Including the English-dubbed versions of the vocal tracks. Not long after watching, I went and legally purchased the OST, and have not regretted it.

The art is nice, especially in the lovely VR world. And the plot is…a perfectly serviceable excuse to deliver the soundtrack.

There’s a scene where Belle on her virtual stage encourages her audience to sing in chorus, and they do: characters who are spread out in separate physical places all around the world, coming together online. At least some of the production happened during COVID lockdowns, so it turns out the voice actors in that scene also had to record all their parts alone in separate physical places, and the sound editors brought them together. That must’ve felt so fulfilling.

Venom: The Last Dance

Everyone who said “the parts with Eddie and Venom having wacky road-trip adventures were fun, the rest of it was bad” was correct.

I had heard complaints about “the writers did Knull dirty, he’s such a good cool villain in the comics and they wasted him in this movie.” Didn’t have any attachment to the comics version, so I was prepared for Knull to be fine, just not the perfect-adaptation curb-stomping megaboss his fans were hoping for. And…nope! Judging solely by the contents of the film on its own merits, the writers did Knull dirty, he’s wasted in this movie.

Final note:

Other than Conclave, which involves an all-male religious order being sequestered away from the entire rest of the world, all these movies pass the Bechdel test! Most of them easily, you don’t even have to think about it! Venom was the only one that struggled (all the others have girls/women as main characters), and even there it managed to have multiple women as scientists, who exchanged some lines at work that weren’t about Venom/Eddie.

It was so refreshing to look back over the post and realize that.

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